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December 9, 2008

Trutherism on the Right

For eight years we have had to live with various "truther" insanities from the left. The first, of course, was that Bush was "selected, not elected." These nuts say that AlGore really won the 2000 election and that George W. Bush is therefore an illegitimate and illegal president.

They also say that the evil Republican stole the 2004 elections in Ohio. Google for "stolen election Diebold voting machines" and you'll see what I mean. One leftie truther site that comes up is WhatReallyHappened. Check it out for entertainment.

Of course there are the real 9/11 Truthers, whose website is always good for a laugh.

Lastly there are the Bush Lied! idiots, convinced that GWB and his evil sidekick Cheney cooked up the entire idea of Saddam Hussein having WMD, the better to steal Iraqi oil. Or something like that.

Long before Barack Obama won the White House, I'd made up my mind not to fall for any right-wing equivalent of the above. I told myself I would not let an equivalent to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" take hold me me. You can count on me to be harshly critical of our new president when he deserves it, which I believe will be quite often, and I was very hard on him during the campaign. But I will not subscribe to conspiracy theories, I told myself.

Well lo and behold, it didn't take long for a right-wing conspiracy theory to come up. It's the notion that Barack Obama is not a naturalized U.S. citizen as required by the Constitution for the office of the Presidency, because his birth certificate has not been produced. Or it was produced but is a forgery. Or something like that.

The people pressing the suit are nutjobs, and not a single respectable conservative columnist, thinker, or publication gives it an ounce of credibility.

However, I am tired of trying to convince people on certain email threads that it's all a bunch of nonsense. So if you won't believe me, maybe you'll believe Michelle Malkin and David Horowitz. Both are fire-breathing conservatives.

First up is Michelle Malkin


Truthers to the left of me, truthers to the right
By Michelle Malkin • December 5, 2008 06:53 AM

...Alas, Trutherism thrives on both the left and right. Which brings us to the spate of lawsuits challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship. On Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court considers one of those suits filed by New Jersey citizen Leo Donofrio, who maintains that Obama is not a "natural born citizen" because his father held British citizenship.

There may be a seed of a legitimate constitutional issue to explore here (how is the citizenship requirement enforced for presidential candidates, anyway?) And at least Donofrio concedes that Obama was born in Hawaii. But a dangerously large segment of the birth certificate hunters have lurched into rabid Truther territory. The most prominent crusader against Obama's American citizenship claim, lawyer Philip Berg (who, not coincidentally, is also a prominent 9/11 Truther), disputes that Obama was born in Hawaii and claims that Obama's paternal grandmother told him she saw Obama born in Kenya.

Berg and his supporters further assert that the "Certification of Live Birth" produced by Obama was altered or forged. They claim that the contemporaneous birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper of Obama's birth is insufficient evidence that he was born there. (Did a fortune-teller place it in the paper knowing he would run for president?). And they accuse anyone who disagrees with them of being part and parcel of the grand plan to install Emperor Obama and usurp the rule of law.

I believe Trig was born to Sarah Palin. I believe Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on U.S. soil. I believe fire can melt steel and that bin Laden's jihadi crew - not Bush and Cheney - perpetrated mass murder on 9/11. What kind of kooky conspiracist does that make me?

You're not a kook at all in my book, Michelle. You're one of not the most courageous conservative bloggers there are.

As with Malkin, David Horowitz has earned the hatred of most liberals and leftists. He is relentless in his pursuit of the truth and an ardent defender of conservatism. In an article published in the respectable conservative journal of opinion National Review, he is even more blunt that Malkin on the matter:

Obama Derangement Syndrome

Shut up about the birth certificate.

By David Horowitz

The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president are embarrassing and destructive. The fact that these efforts are being led by Alan Keyes, a demagogue who lost a Senate election to the then-unknown Obama by 42 points, should be a warning in itself.

This tempest over whether Obama, the child of an American citizen, was born on American soil is tantamount to the Democrats' seditious claim that Bush "stole" the election in Florida and hence was not the legitimate president. This delusion helped to create the Democrats' Bush derangement syndrome and encouraged Democratic leaders to lie about the origins of the Iraq war, and regard it as illegitimate as Bush himself. It became "Bush's War" rather than an American War -- with destructive consequences for our troops and our cause.

The birth-certificate zealots are essentially arguing that 64 million voters should be disenfranchised because of a contested technicality as to whether Obama was born on U.S. soil. (McCain narrowly escaped the problem by being born in the Panama Canal zone, which is no longer American.)

What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on U.S. soil? Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for president trumps all others. But how viable will our Constitution be if five Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots?

Conservatives are supposed to respect the organic nature of human societies. Ours has been riven by profound disagreements that have been deepening over many years. We are divided not only about political facts and social values, but also about what the Constitution itself means. The crusaders on this issue choose to ignore these problems and are proposing to deny the will of 64 million voters by appealing to five Supreme Court Justices (since no one is delusional enough to think that the four liberal justices are going to take the presidency away from Obama). What kind of conservatism is this?

It is not conservatism; it is sore loserism and quite radical in its intent. Respect for election results is one of the most durable bulwarks of our unity as a nation. Conservatives need to accept the fact that we lost the election, and get over it; and get on with the important business of reviving our country's economy and defending its citizens, and -- by the way -- its Constitution.

This issue is over and done with.

Saturday Dec 13 Update

Just for the record, in case any Truthers come by here and insist on evidence! , the following sites have examined the issue in detail and found that the vast weight of the evidence shows Barack Obama to be a U.S. citizen

Snopes
FactCheck
PolitiFact

And sure to irritate the Truthers

10 Characteristics of Conspiracy Theorists

Read the whole thing, but the best two are these

4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero's "cui bono?" (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle's "once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth". What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply "eliminate the impossible" (i.e. say the official account can't stand scrutiny) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on "cui bono?" (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.

5. Inability to employ or understand Occam's Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.

Yup. You can find small inconsistencies in just about anything. The question is where the weight of the evidence lies.

Posted by Tom at December 9, 2008 10:00 PM

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The funny thing is that John McCain was born in Panama (at a military base), but no conservative nutjob ever brought this up when it related to his candidacy. Some of the most horrifying youtube moment of the campaign wa watching a McCain supporter say Obama was an Arab. To John McCain's credit, he took the microphone away from the nitwit lady and told her she was flat out wrong and that Obama was a decent person.

I thought some republicans also wanted to change the constitution to allow Arnold Schwarzenegger to run, in the hope that the governator/actor would be a kind of Reagan II?

In my mind, the more worthy pursuit is the stinking corruption from Illinois. If any conservatives can tie Obama to the crooked politics of his home state, he'll be in a heap o' trouble.

Posted by: jason at December 10, 2008 10:45 PM

I couldn't agree with you more. There are and will be plenty of legitimate things to criticize Obama for. Trumping up things just makes us look as sad and desperate as the left wing kooks.

A friend and I were talking about this because it keeps getting brought up. Even if it turned out to be true, what would we do? Does anyone want Biden to be president? Yikes!!

Posted by: Dee at December 11, 2008 12:43 AM

I agree with the premise of your article but I do think you have confused a few things. First, it was the "fringe" left and not the mainstream left who believed the elections were "stolen". 99% of the "left" agreed with the process and moved on. So, your comparisons should be that there are nutty lefters and nutty righers and that is that.

However, the "bush" lied thing is a bit more mainstream because the evidence mounted and continues to mount every day. Not sure if "Bush lied" or was "Bush duped" into invading Iraq but the evidence is becoming clearer and clearer, through both right wing and left wing writers that Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Douglas Feith, to mention but a few, had already planned to invade Iraq long before 9/11. More evidence, from Bush administration people says there is very good reason to believe they "used" 9/11 to fulfill an already planned event. That is not looniness but it is well documented in many books from prominent people.

Of course, the real evidence is Bush invaded a Country that had nothing to do with 9/11. A funny line from a comedian when people asked what India is going to do about the bombings in India? Well, let's invade New Zealand!!!


Posted by: Kevin O'Meara Author Profile Page at December 14, 2008 8:43 AM

Hi Kevin. Thank you for stopping by and for your respectful disagreement.

I don't want to debate you in detail on "bush lied or was duped" as it's so tiresome, but as far as the "planned to invade Iraq long before 9/11" goes it was President Clinton that signed into law the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 which made it official US policy to overthrow the government of Iraq. Yes we had "plans" to overthrow Saddam before 9/11 - courtesy of President Clinton.

By simply saying that "the evidence mounted and continues to mount every day" and saying that there are "well documented in many books from prominent people" without actually producing the evidence you commit the logical fallacy of Proof by assertion.

You say "the real evidence is Bush invaded a Country that had nothing to do with 9/11." Of course Iraq had nothing directly to do with 9/11 and no one ever said it did. You seem to be making the argument that we are not allowed to do anything militarily unless it is tied to 9/11. This is silly. Surely, for example, we can go after the Somali pirates, and there is no evidence they are tied to 9/11. Therefore, your analogy of India invading New Zealand is clever but silly.

The Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq lists some 23 justifications for the invasion. Disagree with them if you will, but they are reasons that the Democrats in Congress found persuasive at the time.

Interesting though it is to sift through this history, it really is irrelevant. We are where we are. Once in Iraq, we had to win it or slink away in defeat, giving the Islamists a huge victory. Given that the latter is unacceptable, we have no choice but to carry through. Fortunately, victory is within our grasp if we don't blow it by committing a precipitous withdrawal. Let's hope President-elect Obama has the wisdom to listen to Gen Odierno and SecDef Gates on this matter.

But again, thank you for stopping by and sharing your views. I made you a trusted commenter so your comments shouldn't get held up next time.

Tom

Posted by: The Redhunter Author Profile Page at December 14, 2008 9:14 PM

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